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Post by chad on Feb 17, 2013 22:21:59 GMT -5
To Minnesota
Troy Brouwer
Jason Chimera
Mike Weaver
Chris Phillips
NY Ranger 2013 1st rd pick
Toronto 2013 1st rd pick
To Florida
Erik Karlsson
Marco Scandella
Ruslan Fedotenko
Stever Bernier
I approve this message. Minny to confirm
For the complexity of this trade, it was an easy back and forth of ideas, we wish minnesota all the best in their quest!!
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Post by WildGM on Feb 17, 2013 22:25:30 GMT -5
Accept and thanks for the smooth negotiating, had a lot of other offers but this one I felt best for my team going forward and for the future.
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Post by PenguinsGM (Admin) on Feb 17, 2013 23:28:17 GMT -5
Approve
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Post by CapitalsGM (Trade Council) on Feb 17, 2013 23:55:11 GMT -5
Veto
I don't really feel like this is enough value for probably the best defenseman in the league, who is arguable a top 5 player too.
Brouwer and Chimera for Bernier and Fedotenko is pretty much a wash.
Then I'd probably say Scandella has more value than Weaver but that is pretty much a wash too.
Which, leaves Karlsson for Phillips and 2 1st round picks. Karlsson in my opinion is worth more than a 3rd pairing d-man and a couple picks.
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Post by SenatorsGM (Trade Council) on Feb 18, 2013 0:25:09 GMT -5
Veto
I saw it exactly as Caps did but didn't vote yet as to see if anyone else shared the opinion
Just not enough value here for a truly elite Dman even if he's out for the year
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Post by CoyotesGM (Trade Council) on Feb 18, 2013 6:37:19 GMT -5
I almost would have considered it too much for Karlsson. He should be ready for opening night next year, however, so I can see why people go the other way on this one. I think Chimera/Brouwer are a clear upgrade on Bernier/Fedotenko - not stars obviously, but better depth nonetheless. Weaver is an elite Hit/Block combo, and I realize they aren't as valuable as the offensive stats but, once again, its a big improvement on Minny's depth when you consider Scandella hasn't been playin every game. Phillips and 2 firsts for Karlson,well I'd rather have Karlsson but Minesota is obviously looking to win this year and I also felt the glue guys he got elsewhere in the deal were enough of an improvement to make up for it.
Now that i rambled through that... given the goals of each team (short term for Minnesota and long term for Florida), I approve.
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Post by BlackhawksGM (Admin) on Feb 18, 2013 9:06:39 GMT -5
I agree with Coyotes and I approve.
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Post by BlackhawksGM (Admin) on Feb 18, 2013 11:43:16 GMT -5
Brouwer and Chimera have a lot higher value than the soon to be retired Fedotenko and the may or may not be an NHL/AHL player in Bernier. Especially Brouwer who contributes in all categories is actually one of my fav fantasy hockey players. As for Phillips being a 3rd line D man. He is actually a top pairing D man. He just is a shut down D man who doesnt contribute much on the offensive side. As for Karlsson. He may never be the same and I am willing to bet he wont be as the biggest part of his game is his speed and with an Achilles injury that speed will be hard to recover if he ever does. I think this is fair or near enough to fair value when considering the teams involved and their motives ie. win now vs win later.
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