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Post by SenatorsGM (Trade Council) on Jul 21, 2012 22:49:09 GMT -5
Braden Holtby
Martin Havalt
Rene Bourque
William Wrenn
Patrick Wiercioch
3rd OTT
for
Carey Price
Cody Franson
Patrick Maroon
Ryan Bourque
Andy Wilenski
2nd ANH
Wow huge deal lol. Ottawa gets a great G in Price, and sends a young G back in Holtby, plus Havlat and Bourque to help with Anaheim's offense.
ANH GM to accept
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Post by cupper66 on Jul 21, 2012 22:52:19 GMT -5
I accept! Took alot of back and fourth on this deal but we got it done. Good dealing with you Sens.
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Post by BlackhawksGM (Admin) on Jul 21, 2012 23:17:57 GMT -5
approve
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Post by chad on Jul 22, 2012 1:19:51 GMT -5
Veto
I veto this because this trade does not make sense. I thought Ducks were trying to rebuild, sure he gets Holtby, but he has one more year left on his cheap contract. Meaning if he plays poorly or gets injured, a very capable neuvirth will be there to take his starting role. Holtby is not a guarenteed starter past this comming year because of his contract. Price has 6 more guarenteed years. That is where the difference of value is.
Havlat- When healthy he adds some value. But he isnt a shooter, so he lacks in the goals and shots dept and hence gwg. He doesnt get block shots or hits, so that really only leaves 3 categories he contributes in... meh.. not to mention he has issues being healthy and is 31 yrs old.
Bourque.. what a waste of cap space, mediocre stats for 3 million, enough said, not much value at all, especially for a team that is supposedly "rebuilding"
Wierchoch, Wrenn and the 3rd add ZERO value. Wierchoch and Wrenn are defensive d men who "might" be in the nhl, and if they do, they bring almost no fantasy value other then some avg hit/blocked shots... 3 yrs down the line...
Lets look at what Ottawa gets
Price, young enough, guarenteed starter for 6 more years, and in a volatile goalie market, thats a lot of value when your contract guarentees you the starter.
Franson, another young piece, put up 21 pts in 57 games, with 160 total blocked shots/hits pretty impressive numbers for only 57 games of work and still evolving.
Ryan Bourque... maybe the worst piece on this side of the deal, got a taste of the AHL, not alot of value here atm
Wilenski and Maroon are long range projects, however they do have the promise and potential to be legit fantasy players. Maroon scored 75 pts in 75 games in the AHL, certainly good enough to get a look at the NHL level. Wilenski played college hockey and has gotten excellent reviews as a possible top 4 nhl d men, compared to jack johnson.
For good measure, Ducks adds in a really good 2nd rounder.
so lets summarize
Holtby-guarenteed starter for the start of the season
bourque- garbage bottom 6 forward
havlat- minimal value, just contributes to 3 cats
2 prospects that are so far from the NHL and even if they do will not hold much of any fantasy value
3rd rd pick, whoopie
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Price. Guarenteed starter 6 yrs
Franson - excellent young d men with offensive upside with physicallity
2 young prospects long range, but with good fantasy upside, alot higher upside then the 2 comming back
2nd round pick- top 5 pick in the 2nd rd
Veto
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Post by cupper66 on Jul 22, 2012 7:16:05 GMT -5
Here is my take on the deal!
I believe Holtby Is for real and is on a better team then Price.
Havlat- does have injury problems but when healty will help out my offense which I am lacking.
Bourque-gets a fresh start at the start of the season in Montreal and I am willing to take a chance on him turning it around again he could help my offense.
As Far as the rest of the pieces they are just fillers.
Giving up Price does hurt but I still have Reimer as a starter.
Not to concerned about losing Franson cause I have lots of Dmen.
As far as Prices Value being so I high I got offers from lots of gms but not one of them was willing to give back a piece with the potential of Holtby so I thank Ott for being reasonable with there offer.
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Post by SharksGM (Trade Council) on Jul 22, 2012 9:24:33 GMT -5
Approve
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Post by LeafsGM (Commish) on Jul 22, 2012 10:24:37 GMT -5
approved
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Post by OilersGm (Commish) on Jul 22, 2012 20:05:22 GMT -5
Wow no wonder why Sens has a good team when trades like these keep falling in his lap...Unreal
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Post by PenguinsGM (Admin) on Jul 25, 2012 10:45:07 GMT -5
Braden Holtby
Martin Havalt
Rene Bourque
William Wrenn
Patrick Wiercioch
3rd OTT
for
Carey Price
Cody Franson
Patrick Maroon
Ryan Bourque
Andy Wilenski
2nd ANH
Approved by Hawks, Sharks, Leafs
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